TRACKING SYMPTOMS & SIGNS (Vitals)

TRACKING SYMPTOMS & SIGNS (sometimes called Vitals)

When using T3-Only or T3-Mostly,  it is not possible to use thyroid blood tests to manage the T3 dosing, i.e. the  overall amount of T3, or the right number, sizes and timings of individual T3 doses.

The 'Recovering with T3' book described a protocol, for determining doses of T3, and for slowly and safely increasing the T3 doses in order to find the optimal dosage.  The protocol uses both Signs and Symptoms. Signs are measurements that are not subjective, i.e. not based on an opinion. An example of a sign is body temperature, measured by a thermometer. Symptoms are subjective. An example of a symptom is whether someone feels their energy level is good or not (there is no device to measure this). Signs are sometimes also known as vitals (or vital signs).

When using T3-Only it is critical to track both signs and symptoms in a rigorous way and record them. If this is done daily, it is the best way to assess T3 dosage changes. Blood tests will tell you very little indeed, and are often not worth doing at all on T3-Only medication.  The process can also be helpful for those on T4/T3 or NDT medication, although in those cases blood test may also offer some insight (see 'The Thyroid Patient's Manual' for more information on managing these medications).
 

HERE IS A GOOD SUMMARY OF HOW TO GO ABOUT THIS.

WHEN to collect sets of signs / symptoms for those on T3 (or T4/T3 or NDT):

1) Do not attempt to take vitals around the time of a CT3M dose (if one is being used), as this will disrupt sleep.

2) On waking/getting up, or within 30 minutes of getting up which is probably more ideal. Don't do it in bed. Actually get up, dressed then do it.

3) Just before (5-15 minutes before) the first daytime T3 dose - so you can see what the situation is before the dose was taken.

4) 2-3 hours after the first daytime T3 dose - which is when it ought to be helping to raise metabolism. The comparison between the results of this measurement and the previous one can be very helpful in assessing dosing.

5) Just before (5-15 minutes before) the second daytime T3 dose.

6) 2-3 hours after the second daytime T3 dose.

7) If you have a third daytime dose of T3 then repeat 5) and 6) for that third daytime dose of T3.

8) Once in the evening e.g. 7 or 8pm.

For those NOT on Thyroid Treatment yet, take them:

1) Within 30 minutes of getting up.

2) Late morning.

3) Mid-late afternoon.

4) Eary-mid evening.

 

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PATIENT'S SYMPTOMS AND SIGNS IN THE RIGHT FORMAT:

*** START EXAMPLE  ***
DATE: 8th March 2011
Date any T4/NDT Meds were Last Taken: 7 weeks.

GET UP TIME (we need to see if CT3M was being used): 7:00 am. 

T3 (and other thyroid medications) Dosage:
25mcg T3@07:00; 12.5mcg T3@11:00; 12.5mcg T3@14:00; 12.5mcg T3@17:00

SIGNS / VITALS:
TIME  TEMP HR   BP
07:30: 36.7,   95,  107/64
10:00: 36.8,   97,  101/65
12:00: 36.8,   92,  105/63
13:40: 37.0,   97,  109/65
15:50: 37.0,   94,  109/66
18:00: 37.0,   92,  106/63

If there had been any new laboratory test results done, the results should be included after the vitals, along with reference ranges and units - as laboratory test results are also signs.

SYMPTOMS SUMMARY:  Tired in the morning with headache. Didn't sleep well previous night. Felt warm from 12 noon & a bit on edge in the afternoon. Had energy in the afternoon, body feels 'lighter' & head feels clearer.
*** END EXAMPLE ***

The above is clear and organised and only has the essentials in it. This thyroid patient created a diary with time stamped (dated) entries with this type of information, which made it easy for her to track progress after any thyroid medication change (in this case it was T3-Only medication).

Too much information, with many detailed descriptive comments, is almost as bad as too little, making it very difficult to interpret. Summarising the symptoms and signs collected into a few lines also makes it easy to create a diary that the thyroid patient and their doctor can easily assess. Pages of information with many detailed descriptive comments are much more difficult to use. When the information is summarised tidily, and in a short amount of space, then any obvious patterns or results may be found far more easily.

The format above is ideal and has been proven to be quite easy to interpret.

The get-up time is very important to have as it shows if someone is using CT3M.

Note: Waking temperatures can be lower when a woman's period is due.

All the information is in the 'Recovering with T3' book.

Best wishes,

Paul

(Updated in February 2019)